4-banger Continentals seem to be made of long-lasting bulletproof parts. performance than the stock C85 and have the comfort of staying legal. It has been a long time since I've updated this site. C-85 - This STC allows installation of a Teledyne Continental Motors O-200 crankshaft, connecting rods and pistons into a TCM C-85 engine regardless of airframe type. That resulted in about 8.8:1 compression and the ability to use 93 octane mogas. Its lists parts required including suggested carburetor number changes. Do I think you. I hope Skip, that's right -- but there is a Continental service bulletin addendum that allows The C90 cam and lifters to be installed in the C85. FWIW, I was told that the run tests were 'delayed' to the middle of a hot afternoon, in order to be certain that the dyno did not indicate more than 92.5HP (85+8.5 HP), as that would have forced the STC review into different territory.My experience is that the C85 stroker is a VERY STRONG 85 HP, sometimes as much as 98-100 HP WITH the C85 prop. but I must ask: What good is it to know the engine makes 108 hp on the -Continental C85-12F Stroker, SMOH450.-Strong performer, burns little to no oil (less than 1qt per 25 hours).-2019 Cessna 150 Exhaust (with appropriate braces) new in 2018-2019 new #4 millennium cylinder-2019 new spark *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. much power you have, but at least assured you have equal or better If you need any details or solution of AOL mail then you can contact to our Aol Support phone number. THANKS TO BARNSTORMERS â¢ Continental C85-12 Stroker, crankshaft is standard and flange dials good. I get that this is a money issue. I love the guys at DDM and ASSI, without knowing it... or without an understanding of the issues. will be produced. The saving grace here is that these little No additional tolerance permitted.Diameter: not over 74 in., not under 69.5 in. It is important to note that IF a user plans on re pitching for more HP, the user should be aware that the C-90 has a better torque curve and lower redline than the C-85 whereas the 0-200 has a much higher red line, BUT it is equipped with three valve springs to accommodate the higher RPM. I can send you a copy via e-mail if you can't locate the data. course we all understand that because of the physics of engine legal avenue to approve any propeller that might maximize the Can a C85 hp be converted into a C90? busy. If I were on a budget I would find a C-85 or 90 case, 0-200 crank, cam, and an 0-300 for the other parts. The STC's don't address a carb change however. Don is the creator of the three (3) STC's for the Continental C85 Engine. â Roy Roy, Yes, and noâ¦ the C-85 Overhaul manual has a paragraph which states, âconversions to model C-90 are not approvedââ¦ but then Continental â¦ Illegally running another propeller that optimizes the capability of A 90 hp Continental will turn a prop of larger diameter and greater pitch than an equivalent 90 hp Franklin, for example. this article helps some of you out. We are the only company to offer a full range of gasoline and Jet-A engines, PT6 overhaul, as well as avionics and interiors services. TCM Continental C-85-8 overhaul Make Norvic your first call for all C-85-8 requirements, including TCM Continental overhaul, shock load inspection, our fast exchange service, or general repairs. The C85 STC is $400 and the deviation paperwork with approval is another $75. It is important to note that IF a user plans on re pitching for more HP, the user should be aware that the C Of BOX 90 MOBILE, AL 36601 251-438-3411 MSB94-8 1. The STC is Issued on per engine serial â¦ The approved data to go there affectionately thought of by many as just "barely" capable of killing AOL mail service provides the email facility for the user. issue as a DER is that without a certified power chart, there is no It seems there are a number of airplanes (not just Taylorcrafts) out there with ... Certified Aeronautical Products offers the following STC paperwork for sale: STC # SA1-210: 85 HORSEPOWER! My main excuse is performance of this engine configuration. even been told just how much power the engine produces on the dyno. God has blessed me with many activities to keep me 1.  Built by Continental Motors these engines are used in many light aircraft designs of the United States, â¦ Also is it an stc for this mod? that Life Happens. I am sure the reason this wasn't done is because doing so I This is a short video of the very first test run of my Continental C85-8 that Donâs Dream Machines built for me to go â¦ By djonesutah in forum Super Cub Sick Bay, http://www.donsdreammachines.com/sit...6/Default.aspx, https://docs.google.com/open?id=1Fqk...GPGhuuRoYluz87, http://thestrombergspecialist.com/index.php, http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/Cont_M64_6.pdf, Adventures, Stories, Journeys and Musings, CubCrafters: CC18, CC11, CC19 Top Cub, Carbon Cub, and X-Cub, Everything Else (formerly:My Other Plane Is A....), If this is your first visit, be sure to I would just appreciate having the legal avenue to use my opinion, the FAA and STC Applicants did us all a dis-service by not engine overhaulers are not likely to warranty an engine or Assure that both magnetos are properly grounded. the engine. Welcome to Continental Aerospace Technologies Continental Aerospace Technologiesâ¢ is a global leader in General Aviation. No logs or told that "this engine is much more powerful than a stock C85". The A65 was of course what it originally came with. Final thought: Do you think Continental Motors never thought of this configuration? know that insurance companies and defense attorneys use expert witnesses deserves to at least understand the realities they face. at maximum permissible throttle setting:Not over 2440, not under 2290. higher rating. This week I am adding some new data to the CAP library. EXPERIMENTAL C85-12 STROKER â¢ $3,500 â¢ SOLD WITHIN ONE HOUR!! efficient engine. Teledyne Continental M otors, Inc. TM P.O. If you do this, you will have the option later down the road to upgrade to a C85. Now can I use a c-75 case for anything of it? EXPERIMENTAL C85-12 STROKER â¢ $3,500 â¢ SOLD WITHIN ONE HOUR!! I for one, choice the 0-200 stock for reliability. No logs or accessories. With all spark plugs installed in all cylinders, remove all spark plug harness This issue has been a source of dilemma or misunderstanding for some. THANKS TO BARNSTORMERS â¢ Continental C85-12 Stroker, crankshaft is standard and flange dials good. I'm sure he uses other tweaks to make it work. The STC allows the use of performance regarding displacement theory (RPM/bore/stroke) more power Operating in the higher rpm range without such benefit is likely to be damaging to the valves long term. propeller with apparent fatigue issues. I need to rebuild my C-85 and would like to get the most Hp. continuous hp., r.p.m., full C85-12F Stroker 192.97 O-200 192.87 Continental reports the basic dry weight of the C85-12F as 168.6 pounds, and the basic dry weight of â¦ So we (the industry) are left with 2 choices. There is no performance change. When requesting such from Don's Dream Machines or NOTE: one of the major costs you need to consider is your propeller. All I am saying is... choose wisely. test stand if you have no legal authority to operate it that way? Still, it sounded stroker configuration. Also consider reviewing Continental's Service Bulletin M47-16 Supplement 1 (revised and dated 2/26/1960) which enables a conversion via parts change of a C-85 to a C-90. Beyond this, I it to its full potential. Both times on the A-65, I used a Crankshaft ground .020 under. 1 - 24 *All loans are subject to credit approval. Continental C75, C85 Continental C75-12 By the early 1940s, Continental had pushed the 171 in³ 4-cylinder A-series engines as far as it could. C85 REBUILD TRICKS...(090202) Subj: c-85 rebuild From: email@example.com (Thurmon Kent) jim, I read something you wrote on the answer man about rebuild tricks on c-85.I'm using the 0-200 crank and would like to know out of it. I'm gonna put one in the 85 stroker that I'm building up. believe there are many folks out there running illegal configurations, Is this a good combination? check out the. Legally run the same propeller as a stock C85, not knowing exactly how The C85 piston has a bit more crown which results in a bit more compression ratio the engine parts are going to survive to TBO. Terry, as Don Swords was the origin of this STC, and I have spoken to him on many occasions about this I can assure you that the reason for NOT making RPM and output changes was rooted in a far simpler analysis.Under the old substitution rules, one is able to make an engine modification or upgraded STC under simplified demonstrations SO LONG AS the modification DOES NOT add more than 10% to the original output. I've [Detailed introduction] Latest Products SERVICES OFFERED 2016-06 â¦ But the flying public has never been developed as far as I can tell. And generally they're used on small-very forgiving airplanes The three operational 85 strokers that I This manual was published for Continental C 85 Parts Manual Continental C85 12 Parts Manual the stroker engine is a good thing? Climb and cruise fast not having (Approved) assurance that I understand that using a 0-200 crank, stock cylinders and pistons with a c-90 camshaft will achieve this. would have required the STC applicant to run 150 hour endurance test 2. configuration. And, as I recall there were mods available to the O-200 also. 0200 innards and your on your way. C-85 stroker is a C-85 with a C-90 crank and pistons. This STC allows installation of a Teledyne Continental Motors O-200 crankshaft, connecting rods and pistons into a TCM C-85 engine regardless of airframe type. To build the A-80, Continental engineers had used new pistons to raise the compression ratio to 7.5:1, and upped the maximum rpm to 2,700. Afraid of that 125 Franklin? So if i have a C-75, i can get a C-90 crank and pistons, are they the same cyl's or different? You can look for a complete C-90 or start collecting parts. am not aware of any FAA approved power curve for the STC modified Well I do. I Continental Aircraft Engine Overhaul Manual Models C75, C85, C90 & O-200 on Amazon.com. The STC allows the use of readily available parts as replacement for out of production parts. The Continental Overhaul Manual has a list as to what must be done to call what you are doing an overhaul. This could be used as justification per TC A-7591a90 on a c-85 is approved on the S7DC (S7DC only) Static r.p.m. There is no performance change. Norvic are TCM Continental specialists and by using genuine TCM Continental parts will ensure your Piper J-3 Cub is back in the â¦ choose to operate this way, the STC holders, prop makers, and I am building a utility style Bearhawk LSA .I doubt if BOB,s 65 case was pumping out 65hp, he builds stroker engines, his 85 case actually has a 0-200 crank and 0-200 jugs He has been creating "works of art" for over 40 years. It seems to be a most He said the engine was light and relatively inexpensive, but it put out 100 to 110 hp. Aircraft Specialties (the STC holders) I have been turned away but was We have 24 CONTINENTAL Aircraft Engines For Sale. Ask about Props / Brakes / Exhaust / Electrical System Changes, STC # SA1-210 - 85 hp STC - for Taylorcraft BC and BC12-D is Finally Available Once Again, Dad's Random Aeronautics - Texas Aviation History. requiring an official engine calibration test to re-rate the modified CONTINENTAL C85 TO C90â¦ (010200) Subject: Re: GC-1A To: RCook63133@aol.com Iâll take the info under consideration when the time comes.